There Is A Method to the Madness
This is a podcast where I will be discussing all aspects of physical fitness. I am an exercise physiologist and personal trainer and owner of Maxwell's Fitness Programs for the last 25 years. My passion is health and fitness and I am excited to share my views, some stories, interviews and much more with you.
There Is A Method to the Madness
Flying High: Joanne Magley's Journey of Fitness, Wellness, and Community Impact
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Welcome to. There is a Method to the Madness. My name is Rob Maxwell. I'm an exercise physiologist and personal trainer. I'm the owner of Maxwell's Fitness Programs and I've been in business since 1994. The purpose of this podcast is to get to the real deal of what really works and, most importantly, why things work. We're going to have a fun episode today as I am interviewing Ms Joanne Magley, who is a great role model in my opinion most people's opinion in the area of fitness and wellness. So we'll get into that interview Before I've got to pay the bills for the podcast.
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Speaker 2:Well, first of all, thanks for having me, rob. Of course I'm looking forward to it From a professional perspective.
Speaker 2:I am in the public relations communication business.
Speaker 2:So way back when I went to school for mass media communications with the goal of working at a TV station, which I did for about 12, 13 years, and then that's actually what brought me to Florida from Ohio and then from there I transitioned out of TV news into roles at organizations where they needed somebody with TV news background to help pitch stories to the media.
Speaker 2:So I worked for at the time it was Florida Hospital, now Advent Health for about five years being their public relations person, and then for the last 15 years I've been with the County of Volusia in various communication roles. I was their community information manager and then their director, and then the last five years I've had the privilege of still staying with the county but transitioning to Daytona Beach International Airport where I became their sole marketing communications director. Instead of having somebody from the county just being their liaison every so often, if you will, they needed a dedicated person. So that's pretty much what I do and I love promoting our airport and all the new flights and just the great asset we have in our community.
Speaker 1:Which you do such a phenomenal job at, because, like you're a client, but you're I also see what you do, like on linkedin and things like that, and you know you're real good about separating when you're working out from your job and all that which I which I think is a great trait for people, but like I saw that the avelo flights that came in and theze flights that came in and that came from you talking about that on social media and because of that we looked into it and we have flown both Avello and Breeze out of Daytona because of that, and that's like that's so cool, because like it goes full circle, so like you do such a great job, I would have not have known about that if it weren't for you.
Speaker 2:Well, the thing about working at the airport and promoting excuse me what's going on at the airport is the fact that you can. It's something that you really believe in. Of course, I'm talking now and I've got a frog in my throat and we don't edit this podcast.
Speaker 1:I've had it too. We've all had a little bit of it. It's all good.
Speaker 2:But we're doing something that you believe in, and what's better than being able to promote things in your community that, in the long run, you know helps tourism and then helps us get where we need to go?
Speaker 1:Absolutely and like it is so obvious that you believe in what you do, like you're. My personal opinion is that people are good at things because they love it, like that, like I believe I'm good at training because I love training, like you know, when, when I'm on my own, when I'm like looking around, I'm looking on the internet, different workout things and looking at studies. So I think, like people are good at things when they love it and clearly you love what you do. You do such a good job, like I said, you know, because I see it all the time. And then it and it rang to be true. We went out to the airport which I live here and I've flown it before, but like I was blown away at the daytona airport, like it was so nice and you go other places and it's just not as nice. So it really is a great airport. It's great for the community.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we just try to tell people once you fly out of Daytona Beach. If you haven't, you will probably never go anywhere else again. Because you save time from driving to a farther airport, you save the hassle of waiting in long lines, you save the stress from know are you?
Speaker 2:gonna make your flight, you know, by. So there's all sorts of positives there and we're always working to get more and additional flights because, that's you know, we're a smaller airport, so we're not going to be like in orlando or miami or, you know, new york. We're not just, we're just not going to have the capacity that the other airports have. But you, with a little planning, you can make it work.
Speaker 1:So before we segue into your fitness and wellness and how all that works out. I think you were telling me that the 500 is coming up, and aren't there a couple special flights for Daytona?
Speaker 2:Yeah. So the airlines know that the Daytona 500 is what they call the Super Bowl of racing. So Delta adds a flight to and from New York. So it's an incoming flight on Friday before the race and then it's outgoing on the Monday after the race. So they do that with New York and with Detroit. Those are direct flights. And then American adds a Dallas flight the Friday before the race and the Monday. It departs Monday after the race and they're American is also adding a DC flight. Now they're adding a seasonal DC flight direct and it actually starts this Saturday of the 500 and it'll go for a few months. But for this race they're bringing it Friday and Saturday, in addition to a few extra flights to and from Atlanta and to and from Charlotte, which of course connects you to anywhere in the world.
Speaker 1:See, I just learned something new again. Once again. You're so good at your job. I just learned about that DC flight. That's pretty cool because I've been wanting to visit up there. So so you're fit. I believe you're very, very fit and you have a reputation for being fit you take care of yourself.
Speaker 1:I know that you're. You know you were diligent about your diet long before I met you and all that. So how does physical fitness enter into your work and wellness and how do you think it impacts the kind of job that you do, especially since you're a community person?
Speaker 2:Well, I would say, above and beyond, how it affects my job, it's really how it affects your life. And you know, your job is a big part of your life and I've always, like you said, I've always tried to be healthy. I've always, either I started off walking and I remember when I worked at the hospital, I was walking on the treadmill and their exercise physiologist came over to me and she's like why are you walking? I'm like that's because what I do, she's like you should be running. I'm like, oh, I'm not a runner. She's like you can do it.
Speaker 2:And that gave me the motivation to. You know, when I'm outside walking, okay, run to the stop sign and do it a little further. And before you know it, I was running and I never considered myself because you know that whole negative talk, that's not me, I can't do that. So then I started, you know, running and doing 5Ks, and you know, over the course of my life I've tried to stay active. And then, you know, maybe the last couple of years, maybe I wasn't as active as I wanted to be and I said, you know, I can take two different courses. I can either stay where I'm at and kind of wither away into some old, unhealthy person.
Speaker 1:Like most of America, sadly.
Speaker 2:Or I can really just do something to get me back into the motivational, you know, the exercise lifestyle that I need to be and that I want to be, and then that's when I finally got hooked up here to because I needed that at that time in my life, I needed to have the coaching, so so it's more of a holistic and then the work is part of it. Holistic and then the work is part of it, but also even just with work, you know, every day I used to run with some friends in the morning, 5 am, because we were moms and that's the time that we had to run. We had to do it in the morning before anybody would wake up, and then we'd get on with our day. And then people moved away and I didn't get to do that anymore, and so I had to transition what I did.
Speaker 2:And then, right, I think 2018 or so, or 19, we got a dog and now I have this responsibility of this dog. So, and then COVID hit, you know. So gyms were closed, so I started walking my dog every morning, and my dog is a large dogky, it likes to walk, so I would walk my dog. My goal was two miles in the morning, because that's all I had the time to do in the morning and I was happy with two miles and I got to the point where if I didn't walk in the morning, my day was not gonna be good right.
Speaker 2:I would actually have fear of missing out on the what, what they call it FOMA Fear of missing out or FOMO. I would actually have this anxiety of if I don't get this walk-in, I know I'm going to feel crappy.
Speaker 1:Right. Yeah, and some of the exercise psychologists talk about, like, the beauty of some shame. Like you know, we shame ourselves too much. That's not good, of course, but there needs to be a little bit of that. Well, I need to do this, or I don't feel good, I feel a little bit guilty or feel shameful that I skipped it, and so that's what you're kind of talking about, and that's not a bad thing because it motivates you to get out the door in the morning.
Speaker 2:And it changes the way you think about a lot of things. It changes the way you think about what you're going to do the night before. Right, and I and now you know I'm still guilty of it I wanted to be in bed by 10 o'clock last night at the latest, like falling asleep. But my kids come in the room and that's when. That's when kids are the most active and the most talkative. So you're not going to, you know, push them away. So, but at least that meant that's just okay. I'm going to get a little less sleep, different than, um, you know, staying out doing other, you know, I mean just just mentality. So when you know you got to get up and do something, you and the night before you kind of change, um, your perspective. So, like today, I knew I wasn't going to have much time in the morning, so I got up a little earlier, you know, got a lot of stuff ready, because I can't, you know, you gotta just be prepared right and then transitioning to work.
Speaker 2:So when I'm at work obviously now I've started my day off, great, because I've walked and then the days that I come in here I'm, you know I feel extra strong you know, I'm probably moving tables for people you had a great workout with Ellen this morning and you know I work at a, a place where there's stairs or there's an elevator, and even when I worked at my last job at the county, there was also, you know, stairs. Everybody has stairs, um, but a lot, of, most people don't, a lot of people don't use them.
Speaker 1:Only 1% of the people take the stairs. That's the study.
Speaker 2:And forever. I've always made it a point to use stairs and the great thing about using the stairs is if you do it every day, you might be a little out of breath. When you get to you know where your your your floor from in my instance? Um, it's, it's three flights of stairs and at my old job it was three flights of stairs and I I might huff a little bit when I get to the top, but it's not hard, it's not a struggle and if you do it every day and the great thing about that is the people who I'm with, if my colleagues they will, if they're with me, most of them are going to take the stairs um, and I ask it's almost a shame thing.
Speaker 1:Oh, join us.
Speaker 2:Well, it's like yeah and you know elevators actually take, you got to wait a little longer. But so so during work and my job is pretty sentimentary, where I sit at a desk most of the time I get up and I do other things and sometimes there's activities or events that I'm working, but a lot of it is sitting at the computer writing and doing work. So when I do get around and get up a few times during my day and I'm taking those stairs multiple times a day it just helps Absolutely. It just helps.
Speaker 1:It's the activity level. You know you brought up something interesting with with the workout and getting re-motivated a couple of years ago. You know, um, you heard me speak at the rotary and I think that's how um, I'm not sure if we met, but I know we got to know each other and you had called to get in for working out and I had to put you on the waiting list because we're so full. And the thing I tell a lot of people and it's a credit to you is, you know, and we don't, we don't just take any client, as you know. And but your persistence, like I remember you texted back when we finally did get you in this time and I hadn't heard, like I put you on the list and then, you know, nothing opened up and I hadn't heard from you.
Speaker 1:And then, like a beginning of January maybe something like that, last year, I get a text and we don't always save the numbers and I said who is this? And you had said this is you know, joanne, I met you at Rotary. I'm like wow, you're, you're persistent, like you, and I'm like you know what I remember telling Ellen I said we got to make a place in this schedule because she's serious and like a lot of times people hire trainers and they think trainers are going to fix them, like oh, I'm just going to hire the trainer and that's all I have to do, and then they don't do anything where it's like you said it right, you just needed coaching, the motivation, the accountability, make sure you do it right. But you do the work. I mean, when I give you homework, you know you'll write back.
Speaker 1:Done checkmark whatever, but it's like you do it and I just think like that's such a good model that you know as trainers. I've been doing this 30 years and it's like it's great. Somebody wants to start and everything, but at the same time, you know, we're just here to start people.
Speaker 2:They've got to do the work. We're not magic and you do the work. And the thing with being able to get workouts in or be do exercises is making it fit for your time schedule and not having to stress about it on any level. So for me it was. I knew that the time that I could do it is the mornings.
Speaker 2:Now, when we first did it, I believe I want to say it was like. I want to say it was, wasn't it like? It wasn't 10, maybe it was nine? It was somewhere in there. It was somewhere where I, you know, had to ask. I had to ask my boss and she's very, you know, it was very flexible and for two days a week I had a, I had a flexible schedule, but that didn't last that long. I only did that for a few weeks, or maybe a month or two, and then you had something else open up and then it was even easier, you know, to fit into what I needed it to fit into. Because you know, for me you know a mom, kids, activities, you know after work is just it is pretty much not happening, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and we always want to create a win-win with the client too, you know, because we want people to be successful, we want people to walk around going. Oh yeah, you know I got benefits from doing this and it was like, but I think the key is that you earned you really did earn your way into an earlier time spot. So, in other words, like you know, we're not kidding when we say we're really full and there's nothing early, but like when somebody does go on vacation or we have a client that's out six months of the year and they come back.
Speaker 1:It's like when that happens, the person that has earned it with their consistency they're going to. I mean, that's just life, right, it's the same in your job. It's like you got three people that want the seven o'clock and you got one that you know is going to be there because they've shown that and then you get one that, like, cancels every other workout. You're going. Who am I going to say the seven o'clock opened up to? So it's like you know, that's just life, you know, and you earned your way in.
Speaker 1:And I just think that's such an important message for people out there listening that are in the business world, because a lot of people that listen to the podcast you know are working. We have a lot of working professionals. You know. You know. You know a lot of the people that listen and everything. They're working professionals and so, like what I've heard, everything you say so far about your fitness routine is two miles in the morning. That that's very doable, but you do it every day. 30-minute workout two times a week with me or Ellen or somebody you know you do it, and then your little homework we give you, you do it Like all that adds up right.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah. And then you're fit and you know most, a lot of us. Well, me, I'll just talk for me. Yes, I want to be healthy. And then you know you want to look good and you don't realize the other benefits that come with strength training. Right, I am so much stronger than I've ever been and you notice it in the little things.
Speaker 2:So I did a mud run with my son and there's all these obstacles and you know one of them you had to climb and like pull yourself over. And I remember just concentrating on that, those muscles of you know pulling, and it was very, very hard but I did it and I knew I could do it. And then another time at work I had to pick something up and somebody was like, oh, it's heavy, it's heavy. And I went to pick it up and was like, oh, it's heavy, it's heavy. And I went to pick it up and honestly, it really wasn't very heavy. But if you're not used to using your muscles, then everything is harder and you're very strong by the way, I tell you that a lot, and you really are, though.
Speaker 1:Tell you that a lot and you really are, though. And another thing like I think that's interesting too is like you said when you were, uh, at the hospital and the exercise physiologist said you should be running. You know, and your, your mind was you're not a runner. And it's so funny when you hear that because it's like it I say it all the time like if you're physically fit, you know, like if you walk or run or jog or go to the gym, but you're fit, you know what I mean. You have a healthy body weight and all that stuff. Like you can run. And what's funny is, you know you've done several 5ks we've been at, and at least one of them you won your age group. And it's like I know we don't go into those things going, oh, I want to win, I know that, but at the same time you still did. And yet you know, it's kind of like like Ellen says it a lot too she goes. It's why I'm not a runner.
Speaker 1:It's like, right, but like because you're fit you know, and there might be people that are taking it so serious and they're real runners, so to say, and all that, and like you know, not so it's like it just shows you like how, when you work on your overall fitness, you can do so many things well that you just jump into right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it's that whole. If you tell yourself you can't do something, then that's what's going to happen. You're not going to do it, you've got to apply it somewhere yeah. You've got to, and it sounds silly, but it's exactly what it is. It's the positive talk and if you say you can do something, then that's your body and your mind is going to be trained to know that you can do it. For the most part, I mean I totally agree.
Speaker 1:So a couple more questions. Number one, speaking of that, do you think that working out a little more consistently over the last year or so, do you think that's improved your self-talk in general?
Speaker 2:Oh, definitely, because I I don't know the science behind all the workouts that we do and I don't need to Um, but it's I'm doing things that I never either thought I could do or never attempted to do. Because when you go to, I used to go to the Y and I, you know, I think you know the Y is great, but a lot of times I'm by myself, I don't really know how to use the equipment. I don't know what I mean. That is me. Some people can go to the gym and they can do their thing and that's great, but that wasn't me. So, coming here and doing these exercises that I never thought I could do, and at first they were hard, like what was that? You had me on that Bozy ball, is that what?
Speaker 1:it was called yeah, don't worry, we'll be back.
Speaker 2:I mean, and I thought I was going to fall and hit my head Right. You know the balance Even squats in the very beginning, yes, and you know we're only talking about. You know a year or so ago. But then, after a couple times on that Bosey Ball, next thing, you know you're doing it 90 degrees. Now, it's not easy, it's I wasn't a wobbly mess, so it's just cool that, yeah, you're doing things. I'm doing things that I never thought of doing because I hadn't done them.
Speaker 1:In the exercise psychology world which, as you know, I follow a lot because of my psych degree we call that self-efficacy, which means that competence leads to confidence and confidence leads to competence. So when you're able to do something you weren't able to do, you now get confident right, and then you get confident, and then you try new things, and it just keeps rolling Positive momentum. So, speaking of that, the last question here and I already have one in mind that I thought about the other day. I forgot about with you, but I'm glad I remembered what is your goal moving forward with?
Speaker 2:fitness. What is your overall goal? My goal is really to keep doing what I'm doing and doing more. I can always do more, and just not stopping Right, not stopping. You know, I don't want to be looking like a bodybuilder, I just want to be strong and I want to have energy and be healthy. So as long as I keep it up and there's no reason not to Because it's not I don't feel like it's a chore I like to do it right, you do and um.
Speaker 2:So I I don't know if that's the answer that you were. You know there's no right answers. No, I mean there's no wrong answers. I should say there's many right answers.
Speaker 1:yeah, there's a lot of right answers, um, so, yeah, yeah, just to continue to be strong and stay healthy, and my role in that is to just, you know, continue with the accountability and education, I think, Because I do think you like to know, you know certain things of what we're doing which is good and I like to explain that stuff but one simple goal I think we got away from that will lead to your overall goal, Because your general long-term goal, as you just said, is the goal I think everybody should have, which is just keep going, and then we can throw little things in there, though, that help motivate us.
Speaker 1:So I want us to get back to being able to do a complete chin-up.
Speaker 2:Ah, there you go with the pull-ups.
Speaker 1:We both forgot about that, didn't we? Or?
Speaker 2:at least I did, I didn't forget about it, I just uh cause I just thought okay, we're beyond that segment.
Speaker 1:No, I just forgot. My brain went in a different direction.
Speaker 2:Well I will take that challenge or that goal, because I I've always want before I, before we started doing. When I started here, I couldn't do one. And then I think we got to maybe six or seven or something like that yeah right, right. Yeah, I want to put a bar up in my house.
Speaker 1:I think that's a great goal, Because I've always said it, you know, and not to like you know, because I know some people literally can't and maybe never can. So I don't want to make you know, throw it out there and say like it's the ultimate, but like in many ways.
Speaker 2:I've always said that the chin-up is one of the greatest exercises, because it shows everything.
Speaker 1:It shows your strength, but it also shows your strength, the weight ratio, you know, like. In other words, somebody could say all day long I use this example a lot like, oh, I bench press 400 pounds and that sounds really cool. But then you go, well, how much do you weigh? And they say 450. It's like, okay, not as impressive, right, but if somebody says they can knock out 10 pull-ups from the ground to the bar, no matter what, that's hard I don't care if you weigh 100 pounds or if you weigh 200 pounds.
Speaker 1:So to me, the chin up and the pull-up has just always been like kind of a great example of strength, because we, you know, we can go back to our hunter-gatherer, you know, and it's like they had to be able to do it. If they couldn't get up a tree, they probably were food right wow so you know, you know kind of a dark example, but you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Um I just think, like it's great so, yeah, I want to get us back to doing. We'll do it like pre-workout, right after warmup, and then post-workout, we'll see where we're at. You up for the challenge.
Speaker 2:I'm up for it.
Speaker 1:All right, as always, joanne, it's a pleasure to talk to you. Do you have anything you'd like to add to the listeners out there? Any closing?
Speaker 2:Well, just I like to encourage people just to do a little, start with a little, and then, as you do a little, then you can do more, and the simple exercise of walking really just changes the trajectory of your whole day 100%, you gain momentum whole day. 100. You've gained momentum, and not just for the physical part of exercising, but also the outside nature, all that other thing body mind and spirit.
Speaker 1:All right. Well, thanks everybody. I hope you've enjoyed joanne as much as I have, and we will talk to you next time. All right.
