There Is A Method to the Madness
This is a podcast where I will be discussing all aspects of physical fitness. I am an exercise physiologist and personal trainer and owner of Maxwell's Fitness Programs for the last 25 years. My passion is health and fitness and I am excited to share my views, some stories, interviews and much more with you.
There Is A Method to the Madness
Jonathan Gildon's Love of Exercise Started Young
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Welcome to there is a Method to the Madness. My name is Rob Maxwell and I'm an exercise physiologist and personal trainer. I am the owner of Maxwell's Fitness Programs and I've been in business since 1994. The purpose of this podcast is to get to the real deal of what really works and, most importantly, why things work. Hence the name. There is a method to the madness.
Speaker 1:Before I get to today's show, I want to thank Jonathan and Lynn Gildan of the Gildan Group at Realty Pros. They are committed to providing the highest level of customer service in home sales. Why don't you give them a shout and figure out what your home is worth? 386-451-2412. 386-451-2412. Rob here and I have a very special interview to do today, as I have been telling folks and putting in the email. Mr Jonathan Gilden of the Gilden Group at Realty Pros you probably have heard that I don't know thousands of times in this podcast because he is our very first sponsor we had for the podcast and he has sponsored many of our activities, including the Max Fit Games coming up. So very charitable guy and I mean it when I say it the best in the business of real estate. So let me introduce to you Jonathan, and he's going to talk first a little bit about what he does and what got him into the real estate business.
Speaker 2:Okay, so I graduated Florida State 2005 with a finance degree and a real estate degree and my first job was a personal banker, where I met my beautiful wife and transitioned into being a financial advisor from 2007 to 2009, which is basically the crash of the market, so got to watch that all unravel Very interesting learning experience. I then went into business with some friends. We had started a furniture business together. I was a small minority owner in the business, a small minority owner in the business and I learned a tremendous amount when I sold my portion of the business to them after four years had a decision to make on what to do. My mom she is still a realtor, but had been a realtor since 2001, I believe and my brother is also a realtor, so they were doing really well.
Speaker 1:Was he a realtor?
Speaker 2:before you. Yes, both of them, my mom first and my brother, and then myself. My brother had actually went through a career change, also about the same time that I did, but instead of doing when I went in the furniture business, he went to be a realtor. So he had been a realtor for about four years. So they were always encouraging me to come over and give it a try. But I I honestly thought that there were other things that I could do that were more pertaining to my education. But once I looked into it a little bit further and realized how much freedom and flexibility there is further, and realized how much freedom and flexibility there is and then also how much I'd learned from running my own business or really being part of a business that I had to run almost completely on my own. It was a wonderful transition, so I would say it was, you know, I think God opened some doors to put me in that place and by far the best decision I ever made.
Speaker 1:I didn't realize. You met Lynn at your bank you were working at. I had no idea, so you learned something new every time you interview somebody. That's definitely a perk to work in there, huh.
Speaker 2:That made the training class a lot cooler. Yeah, I'm sure, sure. And now she joined you, obviously, in the business, yes.
Speaker 1:So yeah, realty pros yes, part of your great team.
Speaker 2:Yes, so her and I, and then we have really 11 other people on the team.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, I see your uh your team photos on Instagram. You guys are really good about advertising. That's really good. Who does your social media? Is that you and Lan, or do you have somebody that does that for you?
Speaker 2:It's combination. We have a lady that works with us, carmen. She's our assistant, but um, she does. She wears a lot of hats and that's one of them. We put together a lot of our templates and stuff before the year starts and just kind of plug and play from there yeah, I mean it looks good.
Speaker 1:I mean that's thank you. I think it's important to have a good picture. You know you guys always put up good pictures on your instagram, thank you. So, um, yeah, you know I was thinking I got my questions.
Speaker 1:I want to ask you but as you were yeah, you know I was thinking I got my questions I want to ask you but as you were talking about when you got into real estate there, um, you know you're a good person to ask about this, because a lot of people are talking about the market and the house market and, uh, you know the expenses and you know all that good stuff. So where do you see the real estate market going in the next, say, five years?
Speaker 2:Wow, yeah, all right, boy, that's a hard one. I don't. I would hope in five years that we've come through what we're going through now. The issue that I see is affordability, with insurance taxes and high interest rates and the spike in prices and really looking at how much income people are making in our area to afford that median home price. So I think all of those just kind of caught up at one time, and then there's a little bit of a digestion period, which I think we're going through now, and if we've reached the top of where rates are going to be, and if they come down, I think we're going to see a really big rebound. There's a lot of people that are still wanting to move.
Speaker 1:Here or out.
Speaker 2:I think here I think there's people that want to move up into their newer home. You know, maybe they've outgrown their home or they want to downsize. I think there's a lot of pent up demand, people just waiting for things to subside a little bit and see which way the rates go. But every time we see a little dip in rates we see a lot of demand. So I think there's still a lot of people who, outside of just people that are here, that want to live in Florida. We have we've always had that where people are coming from up north that want to retire. So I think there's a really strong demand for Florida. And I, you know my kids play travel sports, so we travel all over and just to see the growth all over florida, it doesn't seem like there's a uh diminishing appetite for florida real estate anytime soon yeah and I think like you nailed it like it's, there's little homes out there, but they're expensive.
Speaker 1:So, and for what? The income is? For daytona beach, felicia, county right. I think that's probably where the problem is the demand. The supply is there but not in like it was Before.
Speaker 2:There seemed like there was lower-priced homes medium-priced homes and now it's like everything you go down to New Smyrna, it's like holy cow. I know who would have ever thought.
Speaker 1:No, I would not have thought that. I had a sister in Wyoming and she was doing some research, um zillow, about some of the homes around here and she was shocked because it's so different in wyoming, oh yeah you know, it's just the home price, it's interesting.
Speaker 2:If you travel you know you go out of town or something. Pull up zillow just and see what house prices are around you wherever you are it's. It's really interesting florida's still florida's still very affordable. It appears right across the nation. Obviously there's other places that are not as expensive, but I would say desirability for location. As far as outdoor activities, the ocean, you really can't beat florida see why he's good at what he does. See him selling that well, it's not hard, because I truly believe it.
Speaker 1:I know, I know yeah, so you know we'll get away from those hardball questions. Yeah, thank you hit a couple softer ones here. So what is uh? What got you into physical fitness, like you're a fit guy, you're cut, you know you're strong. What got you into that?
Speaker 2:it's funny. I remember there was a guy named Galad and my mom would work out to Galad in the morning, and it was six in the morning or you know, whenever, before the sun came up, my mom was in there doing her exercises. And I remember her, still kind of in the midst of her exercise, coming in my bedroom, turning on my light and almost in my face like just punching the air, kind of joking. He was a Hawaiian guy. Right, he was a Hawaiian guy. Yeah, yeah, hilton head was in the back.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Yes, she loved him, but she she was always very active, so there were weights around the house and I would see her exercising. So I think she set that example at an early age and I was always a smaller kid through school and playing sports and stuff. Being small was a disadvantage. So I think as I got a little older I was trying to get any advantage that I could so I would see what she was doing, I'd pick up the weights and, you know, do some curls and that kind of stuff. But yeah, I think about 16, we started going to the gym.
Speaker 2:What gym, do you remember? Bodies? Okay, by Tasso on Granada. Yep, I had one of my close friends who was working out there and he was wanting to do physical training. We were 16. Right, and we'd go in there and do you know, chest and tries and buys and it was all upper body and right, um, but you were there. Yeah, we were there and and that feeling, the, the pump and the muscle, was definitely what hooked me at the beginning. Right to be always, like as a kid, like look in the mirror and see your muscles.
Speaker 1:It feels good.
Speaker 2:I mean it's an endorphin high, no question, and I'd say that stuck with me. And you know, when you look good, you feel good. So I think I really liked that. And then in college I really stuck with it. There was a really good workout center at Florida State, the Leach, which was a giant I mean giant workout facility. It had an indoor track, an Olympic swimming pool two stories. I mean it was just amazing. Swimming pool two stories. I mean it was just amazing.
Speaker 2:And I would go there. I would set up my classes so that I could go in between classes and go exercise. I had an hour and a half in between classes so I'd walk to the gym, I'd have my stuff in my backpack and yeah, all four years that I was at Florida State I would go and work out. And yeah, like I said, I I loved the way it made me feel and I think you know I surfed a lot as a kid, so that that really truly helped build my muscle, the muscles that I do have.
Speaker 2:I think that helped establish that baseline and not having the ocean close when I was at Florida State there was really nothing else physical that I enjoyed doing as much as exercising. So you know I had a lot of energy that I wanted to get out and having the workout facility there was kind of my outlet and it's funny I've never really thought about it like that, but that really established, I think, you know my uh, you know my love, yeah, habit, or really just like desire and and love for exercise. Right, and here I am 43 and it's a huge part of my life, yeah, it's, it's still a priority no question.
Speaker 2:So even though you like, had your classes.
Speaker 1:it sounds like you were already thinking of how to make it a priority by looking at your schedule, which is a priority? I talk about that all the time. People say they don't have time. It's not true.
Speaker 2:They don't have the priority, that's right, you don't want about enough, right they?
Speaker 1:don't want about enough. So that's and I was thinking of something else. So we have that in common. So both of our mothers were physically active in our house and we watched them, because I was the same way. My mom wasn't watching those uh wasn't watching him, but she was watching. She was doing her own thing different types of uh shows that she'd watch and exercise and I remember having the little plastic weights around the house.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the ones with the concrete in them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, just you know like laying in the lake, yeah, so yeah, it's like you see that, and I just tell parents that it's like well, they're just watching you. That's the best way to motivate them, no question. And you know, you're a pro if you watched your mom and then here you are, young man, but still these years later. So let's transition that into how it applies to your job now. Being fit, being healthy Does that help you in the real estate business? Do you think?
Speaker 2:I feel like you led me into that one. Maybe there's no question, man, of course. I mean, I was having a conversation with a good friend of mine yesterday and I was telling him he was saying, oh, I just haven't worked out in a couple of months. You know, it's like once it gets away from you it's hard to get back and I'm gonna get back, I know, but it's just been a little while. And the truth of the matter is is that I really don't even mentally feel good if I don't work out. If I go a week without working out, I really mentally don't feel good, right, and I mean, yeah, I, if I would, if I didn't work out, if I don't work out, I'd be a nutcase mentally, right. I really, I mean poor Len, yeah, oh, could you imagine? I mean based on how I am today.
Speaker 1:Imagine, if it was worse.
Speaker 2:No, no, no. So well, to answer your question number one, the routine of working out, doing something hard, the personal accountability, the mental sharpness, which you can probably back up with some type of scientific information. I don't know that science, but it's there, no question, in my life I experience it. But it's there, no question, in my life, I experience it. And waking up and starting my day with exercise is 100% helping me be the best version of myself.
Speaker 2:So, whether it's in real estate or whatever it is, I also think there's a component and I talk to my team members about this and just friends and general conversation but there's a sense of pride that comes from doing something difficult Right. And I think that, as far as self-improvement goes and finding the best version of yourself, if you can replace one thing that you do we do, we all do things that we don't like about ourself, and if you take something that you don't like, that makes you upset or disappointed with yourself, and replace it by doing something that makes you proud of yourself, I think that snowball grows and, you know, eventually leads to a place where you're feeling very happy with who you are and by being that type of person, I think you can be a better service to the world and be a better person at your job.
Speaker 1:Absolutely so. You said a couple of things that you know trigger responses on that. So one thing I've heard is that you know people talk about trying to improve their self-esteem, trying to improve their self-worth, and I heard somebody say once in 100 percent agree with that that to build your self-esteem you have to do esteemable things To build your self-esteem you have to do esteemable things.
Speaker 1:So like people say, well, I want to feel better about myself, so okay. So what are you doing to do that? It's almost like a lot of people today. They're just so entitled, you know, and people my age, your age, not necessarily kids, adults are so entitled. They're like, well, I should feel better, just because I should feel better. But it's like, no, to have self-esteem, you have to do esteemable things, right? So, like you said, if you do a hard thing, whatever that might be, it might be completing your set. It might be going for a hard run. It could be, in your case, in people that surf. It looks like it's rough, it looks like it's pretty big, but you're able to paddle out and make it out when you couldn't before.
Speaker 2:That's hard, so you're going to get out there and you're going to go.
Speaker 1:oh, I feel good about myself because you did an esteemable thing. Too many times, people today are like, well, I want my self-esteem to be better. It's like okay, so what are you doing to do that? Sure. Like you're not going to feel better about yourself just because somebody told you you're doing better. You can read through that most of the time.
Speaker 1:Sure, I tell clients it all the time I'm like, okay, well, you've got to do esteemable things and you're right, hard things. Exercise is supposed to be hard. Not supposed to be hard, not overwhelming, but it's supposed to be hard, no matter what. It sounds like. Your routine is some way kind of loose, which is okay, meaning as long as you exercise every day you feel good could be a run, could be strength, could be surfing or are you really um structured in what you do every morning?
Speaker 2:yeah, really exercise for me is so that I can do the things that I love, right, and I love to surf and I love to fish, and the type of fishing that we do is very physical when, when we're doing the fishing that I like to do the most, which is sight fishing. So you're, you're physically pushing the boat. So it requires a lot of physical, uh, activity and if you're out of shape, it's going to show you real quick. So the two things that I love the most require a lot of, um, you know, physical activity. So, truly, unless I'm doing those two things and I'm finding something to do, I'd say I'm, I'm structured in a way of I know what I'm going to, what I'm doing those two things and I'm finding something to do, I'd say I'm structured in a way of I know what I'm going to do. You know, right now we're doing two days a week of weights, full body.
Speaker 2:Yeah, full body. And then we've just purchased a steam sauna, which is phenomenal. Could not recommend that more Obviously. There's better saunas that are infrared, that kind of stuff, but steam sauna to the cold plunge has been a revolutionary thing for me within the last year, and cold plunges are hard right. Oh yeah, yeah, come on over. No, Give it a try.
Speaker 1:Cold showers are hard enough. Oh yeah, yeah, come on over. No, give it a try. Cold showers are hard enough. I mean, it's hard, yeah, but I think you know, 30 minutes of weights.
Speaker 2:So if I'm not at the gym, I'm at the house. I'm still running. I absolutely love to run. I'm injury prone, it just follows me. So right now I haven't ran in a week and a half because I pulled my calf again, which is just something that is a recurring thing. Easily we can fix right. Sure, yeah, but yeah it's hard to sustain the running. But yeah, I'll do 30 minutes of some type of physical activity. After that I'll jump in the sauna. Once I get a sweat going, get in the sauna 15, 20 minutes. I'm doing 15 minutes of yoga after I'm super loose and hot and then I jump in the cold plunge. That's been my routine for the last probably six months. But yeah, it's not super, super rigid where I've been doing the same thing for 20 years. It's just always something in order to keep myself fit, so that I can do the things that I love, and I think that's the key.
Speaker 1:I mean I agree with that. That's what I meant by kind of a loose structure where you know you're going to lift weights or strength training.
Speaker 1:You don't necessarily know, maybe, exactly what you're going to do, because maybe you're going to change your mind and decide you're going to do something different for chest or whatever, which is fine. I mean, that's kind of a loose planning. I think that's really really good. The second thing you said about the science. I do want to back you up on that. Science shows that you actually do create more brain cells when you are working out. There's more oxygen to the brain. So when you're talking about feeling better physiologically after a workout, the science supports that, that it is absolutely good for the brain and makes you absolutely sharp. So there you go.
Speaker 1:You were right. That's a beautiful thing. So what else did you want to talk about regarding your physical fitness routine and your work?
Speaker 2:I mean, I think you kind of nailed it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I think that, um, you know, when I was in college, at UCF, working on my master's degree, I was in the early nineties and wellness was going to be the next big thing. I think I've told you that before.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Uh, one on one. Um, wellness was going to be it like. And wellness was corporate wellness, where people were being prepared to go work for the big companies around here like ibm, disney world, some of them. Out west, it was cores, the brewery and budweiser and all them, and it was the next big thing, like we were told in the exercise science departments.
Speaker 1:It's like well you know be prepared because you're going to not only have to know your physical stuff, you're also going to have to understand business. So we took business courses too, because we had to understand how corporate wellness was going to work, and and then it just went kapooey.
Speaker 1:It's sad but, it never really like ellen. Uh, she ran the wellness department in halifax and as much as I love some of the employees over there, it wasn't their fault but the money just wasn't there to put into corporate wellness. I mean nobody wants to. Businesses often don't want to try to prevent things from happening, although I know from the science that it's a more, it's a better way to do it prevent things from happening. I mean they've shown less people call in sick. They've shown lower blood pressures. I mean they've shown if you can keep your employees healthy, it's going to, especially now that a lot of places are paying for insurance. It's going to lower deductibles, but a lot of companies, unfortunately, are short-sighted so they're just not willing to invest in it, which is kind of a sad thing.
Speaker 2:I would think that productivity would be a huge, yeah increase with wellness and not to mention now you know we've had discussions about this, but the mental side of things, absolutely mental wellness that's happening right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you know, yeah, mental health is really in trouble right now and yet, yeah, it would absolutely help. But to try to convince these companies that are, you know, always seeming to be transitioning into something else, it just seems like wellness gets pinched out of the budget you know, ellen got pinched out of halifax, unfortunately, because of that.
Speaker 1:So interesting, yeah, I mean, it's just the way it is. But the good thing is, with you having the freedom and control over your organization, you know, to to a large extent you can be the influence. I mean, I've seen the pictures. Everybody looks pretty fit. I mean, you know, it's not like I'm looking at it going, oh man, what a unfit team, right, you know, it's not that I don't. I've never even noticed anybody not being so, somehow some way. Or maybe it's the industry itself, maybe real estate, no, no no, I don't know, I don't think so, I don't know.
Speaker 2:It's all shapes and sizes, I think. Yeah, yeah, I mean you're just a little extra judgmental, you know?
Speaker 1:yeah, I might be, but, but, but in a complimentary. But I see, like a lot of them that I know, it seems like they no, they're pretty fit, you know, but you got to be right. I mean, isn't there a? There's an appearance side to it? Isn't there, to an extent, with real estate?
Speaker 2:I mean, I don't know, I don't, I mean possibly right. Well, there is a side of it. I would say you can go online and look at some social media stuff and see that there's definitely some you know attractive people doing attractive videos with a home to sell behind it.
Speaker 1:Yes, absolutely, but that's not everybody.
Speaker 2:I would say but you know there is an element of that. Well, I'm glad to hear that you guys keep it on the ethical up and up. I like that. Of course, it's all about the house. You know what I mean? Yes, I do, yeah, well, so go ahead.
Speaker 1:Yeah, as we transition here getting near the end, I heard you had a few questions for me.
Speaker 2:Well, it lends itself really well for the wellness conversation. And, just as a side note, I had experienced my first bit of the mental health side, with some anxiety and having issues sleeping and even led into some depression stuff which was really a shock and hard to deal with. I've been there and boy I would say, exercise and eliminating alcohol from my life really helped me get past it, normalize it, feel better in a short amount of time.
Speaker 2:And I just know, from having gotten to know you, from exercising with you and, by the way, thank you, my knee feels fantastic, of course. Yes, it was a wonderful experience, but I know that in your life, your diet and your lack of of, or really, just saying you don't drink and you only yes, yeah and you only you're totally plant-based, is that correct?
Speaker 1:yes, mostly I mean some fish here and there. But yes, okay, so no chicken, no beef, yeah what?
Speaker 2:what would you say you've seen are the biggest benefits of that particular lifestyle?
Speaker 1:Yeah. So, um, abstinence first. So for me, alcohol was something that I did way too much of in my 20s. I did enough to cover my life, so I don't, I don't think I need to do that anymore, so I quit. Uh, I was probably, I was probably 27, so that's a lot of years ago.
Speaker 1:Um, you know, I don't think there is any. I don't want to, like you know, offend the person that has a beer here or there, you know, wine, whatever, but I don't think there's much good to alcohol. Like you know, we know it's a toxin. We know what it is in the physical world, it is a toxin. You know, a lot of the things we ingest are, by the way, like, I just like took a huge sip of coffee right here and then I learned from one of my classes that caffeine is actually the part of the plant that fends off predators. Did you know that? I had no idea there's like that. I learned that from who was it? This guy, uh, polian does all those plant books, but anyway, like, because he believes in getting off everything, including caffeine.
Speaker 2:But, anyway.
Speaker 1:So caffeine is like a toxin in plants. You know that is used to fend off predators. So he gives that as an example, an analogy that, like these things we ingest are very toxic if taken into mass quantities. So if that's the case, if alcohol is a complete toxin to the system, a depressant you know, as you said, you went through some depression. So if alcohol is a depressant, then it really can't be good for the body. So once I quit in my twenties it was like there's no need to go back. It wasn't good for me mentally, emotionally, spiritually.
Speaker 1:So and then thank goodness because I've just seen it like really wreak havoc on people's lives through the years, and not even people. I mean absolutely with people who have alcoholism issues. But even for the heavy drinkers who maybe don't have a problem with alcohol, like they don't depend on it, but they might psychologically depend on it because they need it for socialization or whatever the health struggles I've seen with people and just the empty calories alone, you know. I mean somebody has a glass of wine that's a couple hundred calories. It's funny they would say, oh yeah, I just had a little glass. It's usually bigger than they think. I mean, they're consuming so many extra calories they don't need. You're in good shape, I'm in good shape. That wouldn't be necessarily an issue unless we overdid it per se.
Speaker 1:But a lot of people who are trying to lose weight while they're drinking I think it's almost impossible. I really do. I think they're trying to lose weight in. A lot of women or smaller bodied individuals, say, around 150 pounds or whatever. They're going to have to be around a thousand to 1100 calories a day to lose weight. Now how are you going to do that and drink and have all the nutrients you need? It's almost impossible.
Speaker 2:Including your burn.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, then they'd have to burn so much, right? So it would be like, you know, the more they exercise, the better, of course, but then they would have to really do so much. For example, Lynn, your wife doesn't weigh a lot, right? So let's say she goes for a 30-minute run. That's a lot of activity but her body weight that's probably 240 calories.
Speaker 1:Okay, she goes and stops at dunk a donut on the way home and gets a bagel. She just put it back like that's how hard it is. That's why I wrote that. You know you cannot run a poor diet because it's so hard to, you know to, to do that.
Speaker 1:And then let's say she drinks maybe two glasses, one a night, which isn't a lot a lot of people do that, sure, and she doesn't need to lose weight. I have to state that again. But let's say, if she did well now, she had that bagel because she's hungry. She probably had creamer in her coffee, whatever, maybe even got a latte. Don't even get me going on that. That's like 400 wasted calories. It's almost impossible for them to lose weight. So I see so many people pay good money for a personal trainer, like myself. You know, come and pay the money and sabotage it and I tell them I'm like, yeah, you're getting more fit, you're getting stronger, you're improving your cardio, you're able to do a 5k now, but you want to be leaner. How are you going to get leaner with that drinking habit?
Speaker 1:You know, so it's just almost like impossible, and then it doesn't help people recover. So it's just the toxins. So that's the first part. So for me abstinence has been a blessing for sure. Food-wise, I eat a lot, but I eat a lot of good foods.
Speaker 1:And kind of like you're saying you can't go, you'd hate to go a week without exercise. I mean, I feel that same way. But I also feel like crap when I eat bad and I will. You know what I mean I'll get. We were at a baseball game a couple days ago in Miami and you know best choice, there was one of those little small pizza things. You know, it's like all right, no-transcript, plant-based, like I said, there's some fish in there and you know some dairy. So that's, you know. I would say it's more vegetarian than vegan. Yeah, yeah, but my lab work since going that direction, like I've always eaten pretty good and clean you know, but I did go through the bodybuilding days of chicken and broccoli and rice, but you know way.
Speaker 1:So I definitely ate a lot of chicken in the past, um, but for the last 10 years or so being vegetarian, or maybe longer, 12 years um my lab work is so good, like it's better now at almost 60 than it was when I was 40.
Speaker 1:And I'll see the doc and he's like God, your cholesterol is like lower than it was 20 years ago. Your blood pressure's, you know one 10 over 68, you know, and it's like, and to me you hear that of course you know we all want to hear we're healthy. So when you go and you and the doctor goes, well, what's been the change? Because you've always been fit in the exercise, either they knew me or they. You know we talked about it. I said plant-based eating, I mean it just was the difference. I don't know if it's improved like physical stuff. You know I get enough protein and all that, but I know on the labs, it has helped me tremendously with that and you know it is cheaper you know, Right, I mean that's a plus too.
Speaker 1:It's like you know it is cheaper, so you know there is that. But you do have to be creative, like you can't if you're vegetarian or plant-based. You just can't eat pretzels all day and think that's going to cut it, you know, because I mean you're not getting much nutrition, so you do have to make sure it's quality rice or quinoa beans, legumes, potatoes, vegetables and fruits. I mean that's pretty much what I eat all day.
Speaker 2:I eat a lot.
Speaker 1:I do eat a lot, but I eat frequently and so anyway, I hope that answered that for you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, that's a really good answer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I'm glad you know it's funny you asked that because, you know, as as you were, as I was interviewing you, it's like you're like you're a good guest, because it really sparked some conversations that people, I believe you know, want to hear. You know they want to hear different takes and I think you offered quite a bit for people out there. You know, um, I'm sure they would have preferred that you would have had an absolute answer to the real estate market. I don't think it.
Speaker 2:The crystal ball is foggier and foggier by the day.
Speaker 1:But you see, that's why you're our sponsor, because I always tell people I'm not going to have somebody sponsor, that I don't believe in what they're doing. It's like you're an honest agent. You could have said you know, I don't know, I don't believe in what they're doing. It's like you're an honest agent. You could have said you know, I don't know, I don't know what the right. I don't know what people are doing. We hear a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you hear a lot of people that portray information as fact and good for them, and maybe they're fully convinced, and there's some people that have a phenomenal track record of predicting outcomes. How do you predict?
Speaker 1:it.
Speaker 2:It's like you said, it's a crystal ball. There's a lot of factors that factor in, but yeah, no, I was happy to be here, happy to have the opportunity. It's been a long time coming. It's a pleasure, as always, to spend some time with you and talk to you, and I'm really looking forward to MaxFit Games. I think you do a great thing there and I think you do a great thing there and I know that's that's been a big part of your, yes, life and that's awesome and the kids love it. Everybody has a great time.
Speaker 1:It's a phenomenal time to be there, so I'm looking forward to that and jonathan gave us a good plug for that for everybody, because, uh, it's going to be different this year.
Speaker 1:The one, um, you know negative I saw, and I think everybody saw, and if they didn't see it, they they're just lying to me was how long it took to score and it's like, oh God, like we ran into so many errors, you know, trying to make, trying to make it fair, of course, but we figured out a way this year to to not have any issues and it's going to be more of a, uh like obstacle course style. So like you're done, when you're done, when you finish first, second, third, that's where you are.
Speaker 1:We don't have to calculate anything, so like you're going to be, and the kids everybody you know are going to be at a station for a certain amount of time and then go to the next station.
Speaker 1:So you know the first part will most likely be a run and we haven't got all the things in yet, but, like the next one will be your team, we're going to do team, so maybe you and lynn, I don't know. Yeah, be good, but anyway, your team has to complete 200 push-ups before you can go to the next station, so you do 10, she does.
Speaker 1:However, you want to do it and then you run to the next station and I think we're going to have a jump rope, so you're going to have to do, I don't know, like 500 jump ropes, you know so it's going to be like that, and so the first one that crosses the line is done and we're going to have judges at each station.
Speaker 1:So we've kind of mapped it out the way. I've done an event before like that and it just is going to eliminate people standing around getting hot. You know, foods out all gone because Jonathan and his kids ate every single bit of it sitting over there. But yeah, it's going to be fun and I appreciate Jonathan for the plug and I appreciate him sponsoring once again Big $500, which we appreciate Anything else for the crowd there, Jonathan.
Speaker 2:That's it, man. No, thank you for having me. I really appreciate it. You bet, and thank you everybody listening to today's program.
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